The Writers’ Symposium Incident, September 2024

Note: This report will be updated as I discover more information. For one thing, apparently this situation has exceeded its original scope and no longer could be reasonably described as a “kerfuffle,” so I have gone with the term “incident” instead. I apologize in advance for the hassle.

EDITs as of early/mid Dec 2024: Apparently, Emily & Chris Bell have been barred from further attendance at Gen Con for 2025 and (presumably) the future as well. I have not verified this beyond Emily’s own claims on the subject, nor do I know Gen Con’s thinking on the subject. I do not know of anyone else involved in this incident banned from Gen Con.

Also, it has come to my attention that Maurice Broaddus has been elevated as the new head of the GCWS for 2025, which is fantastic. Well-deserved and long overdue. Maurice is an institution at the GCWS, and he will be an excellent chair of the leadership team.

EDIT as of 15 Sept: 2024 There have been suppositions that I am in some way supporting/defending Gen Con and/or attacking Chris & Emily Bell. That is not correct. I am only looking for the truth. Both sides made mistakes. I criticize both sides. I do not now nor will I ever work for Gen Con, nor am I a leader at the Symposium. My goal here is to present a third-person perspective based on actual research and evidence, not supposition. Is everything I say entirely corroborated and accurate? Not necessarily, but I have made a concerted effort to ground all of my statements in my research. If one party comes off looking worse than the other, that is a consequence of the events, not my efforts.

If anyone would like to reach out to me with their own perspectives and evidence, I left my email below.

Herein, I present my findings about the recent conflict between Emily and Chris Bell, members of the leadership team (Chris was the de facto chair) for the Writers’ Symposium for 2024, and Gen Con, our contracting company that hosts the symposium every year at Gen Con in August. The Bells worked very hard and long to put on what was, by all accounts, an excellent Symposium.

EDIT: an earlier version of this analysis suggested that Emily was herself the head of the leadership team, alongside Chris. Chris has attested that he was the de facto chair and all decisions were made at the leadership team level.

Principal members of Gen Con who will be discussed here are Marian McBridge, the Symposium’s liaison, and Derek Guder, her boss on the event committee. Within the last days, Gen Con (I’m not sure specifically who said it) informed the Bells they are removed from leadership of the Symposium going forward through 2025 and beyond. It was originally stated that the entire committee was removed, but Gen Con has since softened its stance that only Chris and Emily Bell are not welcome back on the leadership committee for 2025.

The aim of this analysis is to determine why.

Tl;dr, it isn’t racism or that Gen Con objected to the leadership committee bringing in BIPOC writers. Gen Con was all for that, in fact. It was the leadership team (under the direction of Chris Bell) who halved the expected four (4) featured guests at the Con to two (2), then used the remaining funds for other unintended purposes, then delivered Gen Con an ultimatum, prompting the current rift between them and Gen Con.

Note that I *did* inform Emily about this change in Gen Con’s stance *before* she posted the second part of her post about being dismissed from leadership, with corroboration from Derek. She knew before she posted that Gen Con’s problems were with herself and Chris, not the rest of the leadership team or the Symposium in general. But she still posted the account she posted.

“Who the fuck do you think you are?”

To answer Emily Bell’s question (trust me, the WS discord has been a JOURNEY), here’s some information about me for context.

I am a long-time member of the Gen Con Writers’ Symposium. I am not a member of the leadership committee, nor do I have any interest in being such. I was not set to be a panelist in 2024 (it was a bye year for me), but I was going to attend (as I do every year) until I came down with COVID the previous Monday and didn’t want to put anyone at risk.

I am also well-acquainted with the various players in this situation, including Chris and Emily Bell as well as Derek Guder and Peter Adkison of GenCon.

I am also the “writer who asked to remain anonymous” in Emily’s blog post about the issue. In fact, you should read her post, as this piece assumes you have. Here’s the link:

True to my word, I reached out to Peter on her behalf, and he informed me that he had no involvement in the situation and intended to stay out of it. He supported the decisions made by the events team, Marian McBride (the WS’s direct liaison) and her supervisor, Derek Guder. He declined to meet with Emily.

To be entirely upfront, my goal here is to offer a true accounting for what happened and preserve the Writers’ Symposium going forward. I think the Bells did a lot of good work in making the Symposium more diverse and progressive than ever, and I highly support that effort. But we must also acknowledge our mistakes and learn from them, to avoid repeat problems.

My research is also still ongoing, and I would invite anyone with insights into the situation to reach out to me with their own perspectives and evidence. My email is erikscottdebie AT yahoo DOT com. (Yes, yes, I am one of those silly elder millennials who still uses Yahoo.)

Here are the facts, based on my research.

Gen Con is the contracting organization for the Writers’ Symposium, i.e. they contract a leadership team of interested writers/publishers/editors/industry figures to put on an event every year consisting of panels, presentations, workshops, and potentially other events, which we refer to as the Writers’ Symposium. This has been going on for decades.

Gen Con is a major, but not the sole funder of the Symposium, which also relies on sponsors and donors, be they individual authors or companies. Catalyst Game Labs was a sponsor for 2024, for instance. I have not, as yet, determined how much funding the Symposium received from sponsors and donors for 2024; my research continues.

For WS2024, Gen Con funded the Writers’ Symposium leadership team to the tune of $4,000, increasing the Writers’ Symposium budget from the previous year (2023) on the assumption they would bring in FOUR featured writers, BIPOC encouraged but not required. Gen Con wasn’t going to *insist* that the leadership team bring in only BIPOC writers, but clearly inclusivity was the direction of the Symposium under the Bells’ leadership (this is attested in Emily’s narrative of events), and everyone was on board. This money was intended to subsidize housing and transit for featured guest writers who might need it.

The leadership team identified not four but TWO featured guests, providing them each a $1000 stipend, and allocated the rest of the money to other administrative purposes.

So where did the money go? According to Chris Bell:

  • Travel expenses of (non-committee) Symposium guests (over $3000 spent in 2024)
  • Social events for Symposium members and volunteers
  • Parking reimbursements for volunteers
  • Signage (not provided by Gen Con) to identify the Symposium area in both the Marriott and Vendor Hall
  • Website, email, IT expenses (not provided by Gen Con)

The leadership team invited these two guests: Linda D. Addison and Mikki Kendall. There’s nothing wrong with either as a choice—by all accounts (and my personal opinion), Kendall in particular is fantastic and has great perspectives to offer. I’m less familiar with Addison, but she too is amazing. I will focus this account on Kendall, as so does Emily, and because her name was allegedly on the emergency meeting notice that GC would ultimately send out. I have not seen a copy of this meeting notice, but Emily says it was on there, and I believe her. We’ll get to that.

But from Gen Con’s insular perspective, they were outside-the-box choices, with relatively limited connections to SFF and gaming as industries. “Relatively” in this case compared to a featured guest like Brandon Sanderson, N.K. Jemisin, etc. To be clear, they were expecting the Symposium to invite at least one featured guest with massive name recognition and wide appeal to the SFF audience. Addison is a horror institution, but Gen Con does not focus on the horror overlap. And though both of them have worked extensively in the industry and are–again–fantastic gets, Gen Con had the reaction they had.

(Credit goes to Maurice Broaddus for his role in bringing Kendall and Addison to Gen Con. Maurice is not mentioned even once in Emily’s account, when last I checked, but I thought it was important to acknowledge his influence here.)

Per my research, Gen Con had not heard of either of them, despite their decades of work in the industry. I cannot explain this, as I would expect Gen Con to google them and see their work. Perhaps they did, and still calculated that the two would not be a draw on the level of, say, Ed Greenwood (a niche weirdo, sure, but this is his niche) or R.A. Salvatore a couple years ago, who packed the Symposium with attendees anxious to see him.

(And yes, Gen Con’s reliance on white guy authors–and their historical dominance of the SFF genre–are a key backdrop to this whole situation. I am not ignoring that.)

The communication relationship between the WS leadership team and Gen Con, by all accounts, was always somewhat fraught, and continued to erode over time. Gen Con, when they heard about this choice, logically wanted to discuss, only to find out that the invites had already been made, and the WS leadership team was going to announce publicly within the next day or so. The Symposium’s liaison Marian escalated the situation (which was becoming urgent) to her boss, Derek Guder, and GC called an emergency meeting to discuss the matter.

Per Emily’s account, the meeting’s title was “Concerns regarding Special Guest Mikki Kendall” or something to that effect. Which it seems she interpreted to mean that GenCon did not want to invite Kendall because of her race and/or activism, though I have discovered no evidence to this effect.

The concern expressed during this meeting regarded the actions of the leadership team in inviting an unconventional guest and not giving GenCon the chance to consult or even know about the invite before it was extended and/or publicly announced.

Per Emily’s account, Marian and particularly Derek castigated (in strong terms) the leadership team for acting unilaterally, using GC’s money (given to them in good faith) for purposes other than what it was intended for (i.e. to bring in four guests in consultation with Gen Con, and they only brought in two), and for inviting guests without informing them beforehand. Which, for those of us who have been in such meetings and can attest, is a traumatic and upsetting experience, no question. It can certainly be argued (as Emily has) that the leadership team’s treatment at the hands of Gen Con was overly harsh and prompted PTSD responses, which is not defensible.

I happen to share this opinion. I do not think there is any place for belittling or abuse in a professional setting.

(EDITED to state my own opinion. I am in no way defending Gen Con here.)

Is any of what happened at all reasonable?

Sigh. Let’s talk about the context.

Let’s be clear. Putting on the Symposium is expensive. It’s a lot of work. And Gen Con should definitely provide more funding, in this author’s opinion. The leadership team made their own calculations and invited these two featured guests, and no more. I think it is understandable that they did not bring in more featured guests if they did not have the funds. Unfortunately, this put them on a collision course with Gen Con’s expectations going into 2024.

Per my research, Gen Con has always had the final say in what featured guests get invited, and it is customary (probably contractually required, but I can’t confirm) to submit a list of guests to be invited for Gen Con’s review and approval before invites are sent out. It is my understanding that in past years, GC has been fairly hands off when it comes to selecting guests, which probably has to do with trust built in the leadership of the Symposium. We had stable leadership for many years, and fostered a strong relationship with Gen Con. The last few years have seen more turnover, and the Bells took point just recently.

From Gen Con’s perspective, featured guests at the Symposium are intended as a draw for attendees. There are people who come to Gen Con SPECIFICALLY to meet people at the Symposium: typically well-known SFF authors and/or designers. To not invite someone who might draw attendees is, from Gen Con’s perspective, a business-related error.

And per my research and Emily’s account, Gen Con did not recognize Addison and Kendall as sufficient draws to justify their investment. Kendall—for all her bona fides—is an unusual fit for the Symposium. Gen Con expressed concerns about her appeal to the Gen Con-going audience, who might not even have heard of her and about the provocative nature of her political advocacy. Derek allegedly (and incorrectly if so) described them as having “zero appeal.” Which is definitely not true, but these less conventional choices were intentionally chosen to expand the conventions of the Symposium. Emily has been very clear about her intent to champion the cause of inclusion at the Symposium, and it is clear these two featured guests were part of that effort. And I, for one, applaud these efforts.

Because… hell yeah, Kendall. She’s awesome. The best thing to come out of this whole mess as far as I’m concerned is exposing a bunch of us whitebread writers to her work. 😊

I personally and firmly believe broadening the horizons of our audience is indeed something the Symposium SHOULD be doing, and I personally applaud the choice of Kendall. There were a number of years where the Symposium relied heavily on white men to represent SFF, and that is not acceptable going forward. I see the fact that at least some of our audience wouldn’t immediately recognize her as a STRENGTH, not a weakness. The Symposium SHOULD be about learning and pushing the envelope. I support the choice of Kendall, 100%.

At the same time, I can certainly understand why Kendall’s selection would give Gen Con pause. They weren’t familiar with her, they suspected most attendees wouldn’t either, and they were wondering why someone who is primarily known as a political activist would be a good fit for the Symposium.

As for the issue of how Kendall’s politics and activism affected Gen Con’s concerns, that is unclear. Historically, Gen Con seeks to remain non-political or at least find compromise in most instances, as we have seen with their initial pushback and threat to leave Indianapolis against Indiana’s restrictive legal measures regarding LGBTQ people, then backing down when the issue cooled down. Whether this is a sustainable strategy or even logically possible is another question–one outside the scope of this particular report.

But I digress.

Back to the facts, as they unfolded.

Regardless, Gen Con does not typically take direct political stances, and the invitation of a progressive, social-justice oriented activist (as awesome as that is for the Symposium and in this author’s personal opinion) warranted some discussion.

It is, as yet, unclear what the timeline of these decisions might have been. When did the invitations go out? When did Gen Con find out about the invitations?

It is my understanding, based on my research and discussions with various involved parties, that when Gen Con learned of the invites, they wanted a conversation, learned that it was too late to do anything about it, and reacted negatively, leading to the contentious meeting noted above, where Gen Con (through Derek) called an emergency meeting and sternly rebuked the leadership team for its actions.

Per my research, there was no discussion of Kendall’s race or her work in racial justice at the emergency meeting, though it certainly makes sense how one could interpret Gen Con’s concerns as being about those issues (i.e. dog whistling). Emily clearly has interpreted Gen Con’s actions in this light, and she has told anyone and everyone who will listen that it is a matter of inclusion, rather than having anything to do with her actions.

After the emergency meeting, communication broke down dramatically. The Bells (understandably) went on the defensive, engaged Gen Con in several long, contentious meetings where they (allegedly) expressed it was unacceptable that they would even ask for oversight into whom the Symposium was inviting, and that the Symposium must be free to make its own decisions.

After Gen Con pointed out that the leadership team are contracted to run the Symposium *FOR* Gen Con, the committee finally unliterally submitted an ultimatum to Gen Con (drafted by Chris Bell and signed by numerous but not all members of the leadership team) that if the Symposium is not treated as a wholly un-regulated, independent entity with full autonomy and no oversight, they would step down, in effect canceling the Symposium for Gen Con 2024.

The Ultimatum

Here’s the email they sent, as posted on Emily’s blog. It’s a long letter, so I’ve broken it up into several passages. You can read the whole thing on her blog, and I’ll post the transcript in the comments below.

Note: I am not sure what the “fundamental change to the underlying relationship” between Gen Con and the Symposium is, but from context, it seems to be asserting that Gen Con seeking to have oversight (i.e. consultation and veto power) regarding featured guests is fundamentally unlike what we’ve done before.

Which, as noted in my above analysis, is not entirely off-base. GC has been fairly hands-off, so long as the Symposium has invited the guests they expect. When they invited Kendall, it was an unusual choice, and they wanted to step in and at least have a conversation, only to be told they didn’t have time.

There’s a lot of focus on Derek “not reading” the team’s report, and I’m not sure how much that obtains. As far as I understand Gen Con’s responsibility structure, Derek isn’t responsible for the Writers’ Symposium—Marian is. She brought him in specifically because there was a timely issue to be handled, and it seems reasonable that he would leave the review to her, not do it himself.

The letter is entirely correct that this was an 11th hour issue and travel plans were having to be made. Gen Con should have stepped in sooner, but it is unclear that Gen Con was even *aware* of the Symposium’s choice earlier. The letter points out, correctly, that it is basically too late to make changes, and Gen Con is stuck with the Symposium’s choices. Which they basically were.

I don’t know about you, but that stuff about a “very public and open response” sounds like a threat to me, and they were right. If Gen Con *had* vetoed Kendall or Addison at the 11th hour, it would have been a PR and logistical disaster for all involved. The letter reiterates their commitment to inclusion, which implies (at least to me) that such a veto would be seen as a racial issue, rather than as a business decision for drawing an audience.

EDIT TO ADD: Note also that not every member of the leadership team signed this email. Some names are notably absent. So as not to invite harassment of those individuals, I will not be naming them. (Please do not harass anyone. Including Chris and Emily Bell.)

All in all, they are strong-arming Gen Con as best they could. Which… I’m not sure that’s the best strategy when dealing with your contracting entity? But I have to respect their determination in sticking to their principles.

But it put Gen Con in an awful position–accede to their demands or risk significant damage to the convention. So they carried on to get through 2024.

Note that Derek reiterates that his concerns are focused upon how many guests the leadership team invited, and about how the issues were communicated and coordinated.

At this point, per my interview with Derek, Gen Con accepted there was nothing to be done for 2024. It was too late to make any radical changes to the Symposium, the guest list, or any of it, and so they let it ride for 2024.

After a successful Symposium (the leadership team did an excellent job putting on the Con, and that should be noted), Gen Con informed them at their debrief meeting that they would not be working with the present leadership team again. What exactly was said at the end of the meeting, I am still researching, but as Emily frames it, they said something to the effect of “no one on the current committee will be invited back next year.”

EDIT: Chris gave me a quote, which is “none of you or your committee will be invited back to run this.” He didn’t specify who made the statement.

That could be interpreted as “none of you on the team can be on the leadership team next year” or “you can’t come back at all.” I do not know how Gen Con intended it, but I have interviewed Derek on the subject and he says they just don’t want to work with Chris and Emily Bell specifically.

What does this all mean?

So Gen Con does not want to work with the Bells again. They didn’t “disinvite” anyone–i.e. they didn’t ban anyone from attending the convention in the future, nor did they “dismiss” the Symposium as a whole. They just won’t work with the Bells again. When it comes to the other members of the leadership team, Gen Con is willing to talk with them to sort this out, whether or not they were signatories on the email. And yes, I have confirmed that with Derek. (EDITED for clarity.)

EDIT Mid December: Emily claims to have received communication that she and Chris are barred from attending Gen Con 2025 and (presumably) future Gen Cons. Per Emily, this is devastating, because they care deeply about the convention in general and the symposium in particular. I do believe her about this, because I know she has put a lot of work and passion into her participation in Gen Con. The Bells have my sympathies.

Let me reiterate: the other members of the leadership team, even those who signed the email noted above, are on the table to remain as leaders for the Symposium. Which is a very good thing, because the team has a lot of talent and promise. (Mid-December edit) Maurice Broaddus (WS institution and member of the leadership committee for 2024) has been tapped as the leader of the GCWS for 2025, and that’s fantastic.

Only the Bells are unable to be on the leadership team going forward. Derek has made that very clear.

This decision is, of course, entirely within their rights as the contracting agency. The Symposium is a contractor to Gen Con, and they (we) are entirely subject to their decisions. If they decide that they want to go a new direction with the Symposium, that’s fine—and it’s quite normal in the corporate world. But it sucks, and I know Emily poured a great deal of effort into her work on the Symposium, and it’s crushing to be removed from her position. In her place, I would be just as hurt and upset.

Financials

At this point, Chris has provided me an accounting of the funds raised by the anthology (which I’m told is pretty great, btw, pick up a copy if you can) and novel sales. I cannot corroborate these numbers directly, of course.

Atthis Arts (Chris and Emily Bell’s small press) footed the cost for a good deal of the anthology and novel sales, as GenCon has no on-site bookseller (and has not in several years). I will share the numbers, because I think it’s useful to understand the scope.

According to Chris, Atthis Arts lost thousands of dollars at GenCon 2024:

  • This year, Atthis Arts spent $496 on hand-held square terminals, receipt paper, and cases — so that volunteers wouldn’t need to use their personal cell phones. These are not items Atthis Arts need for their normal business, this was specific for the Writers’ Symposium.
  • Atthis Arts collected $1066 in gross credit card sales, which after transaction fees, resulted in a net income to Atthis Arts of $181 (the 20% they collected for the service).
  • All in all, Chris states that Atthis Arts spent over $300 providing this service. This was paid out of pocket by Atthis Arts, not the Symposium.

I am not a forensic accountant–I hate finances–but to me, this reads as:

Atthis Arts spent $496 on equipment to facilitate sales (bullet 1), sold $1066 worth of books and collected a profit of $181 (the 20% fee they collected for the service) while the remaining $885 went to the authors whose books were purchased (bullet 2). Leaving some $315 (over $300, so that checks out) they still spent on equipment… which Chris writes off as a loss.

Surely the Symposium can reuse at least some of that equipment? It seems very reasonable to me that the Symposium could purchase those square terminals and cases for future use, but maybe I’m missing something.

Next up is the anthology, which Chris claims Atthis Arts lost “over $2000” on the anthology, due in part to paying “pro-qualifying rates” to authors. He didn’t tell me exactly what this rate was, but I do concur with his assessment that paying authors fairly is very important to do. In return, he anticipates Atthis Arts earning a net $400 on USB drive sales (i.e. the anthology). So that’s a $1600+ loss.

He also stated Atthis Arts directly assisted Symposium members with attendance costs to the tune of $1100. He states that “over $3000” was spent doing this in 2024, which presumably includes some percentage of Gen Con’s funding and, presumably, other funds raised from Sponsors and/or Donors. How much came in from these sources, I do not know.

I can’t corroborate these numbers, not having access to Atthis Art’s financials (as I shouldn’t), so I’ll take Chris’s word for it.

Legal Implications

EDIT: I mostly removed the legal implications section, as it’s mostly my own speculation and unproven allegations from other sources, which don’t help anyone. I have left the example of one of Emily’s posts attempting to raise money for her Worldcon trip. Eventually, she would attend, where she apparently hosted a panel about being kicked out of multiple conventions (more about that in the comments of this blog post).

Also the note about defamation. I have endeavored to make my report as accurate as possible with all the information I can find.

This author did not personally attend Gen Con 2024 (COVID round 4, blech), but I can attest to frequent solicitations on the discord for donations for Worldcon, which sometimes took on a guilting sort of tone? Like we owed Emily for her efforts? Obviously people can and should use their funds as they see fit, but soliciting donations in such terms seemed off to me. And I don’t think I’m alone in feeling that way.

Here’s an example:

I’ll leave that to your own interpretation.

I am personally concerned that Emily has defamed Derek Guder specifically and Gen Con in general with her accusations on her blog. It is her own choice, of course, but she risks tarnishing the Symposium by association with her accusations. It is my belief, based on my research, that the facts do not support Emily’s accusations, and she is potentially opening herself up to liability.

If we were still on speaking terms, I would encourage her directly to apply caution to what she says in public.

In Conclusion

Throughout this process, I have sought to keep an open mind. The information I have received from both sides is contradictory, with either side presenting the facts to suit their own interests. Anyone involved in the Gen Con Writers’ Symposium Discord can attest that it has not been easy, and has frequently been extremely messy. Which is to be expected when something like this happens.

I do not believe that any party is guiltless here. The issue was primarily miscommunication and growing frustration on all sides.

It should be noted that on the private Writers’ Symposium discord, Emily Bell doesn’t want any of us to question any of this. She wants us to support her, no questions asked, and the slightest bit of pushback is met with insults, guilt-tripping, and harassment. She has personally cursed at me, told me to “go to hell” and justified it as “I’m just telling him to go home,” and implied that my pursuit of the facts to be “licking” and/or “admiring” Derek’s genitals. (But hey, what’s a little bit of homophobia among colleagues?)

Most telling, however, is her continued assistance that if one does not IMMEDIATELY support and stand by her side, then you are against inclusion, against BIPOC and marginalized people, and generally speaking, evil. Which is patently absurd.

No one person is the avatar of inclusivity or the *only* white person to be doing the work. To claim otherwise is to appropriate social justice language to deflect from one’s own questionable actions. That’s some white savior BS.

As far as I can tell, Emily is using her self-asserted image as a “voice of inclusion” to shield herself from criticism, deflecting concerns regarding her unprofessional and frankly unacceptable behavior.

Per my research, Gen Con’s decision had nothing to do with racism, and neither did Origins, or ConFusion, who have also (allegedly) cut ties with the Bells under similar circumstances. The Cons in question DO support diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts. As far as I know, their decisions are based on her actions as a leader: poor communication, acting unilaterally, and not consulting them.

Let me reiterate: Per my research, Gen Con is parting ways with the Bells because of their at-best difficult and questionable leadership decisions, such as not allowing Gen Con to have veto power or even a discussion before invitations for featured speakers were sent. Derek makes it very clear their objection was how they used the money, not anyone’s race or anyone’s politics.

This is not to exculpate Gen Con in all this. If Emily’s account of the contentious meeting where Derek rebuked them is to be believed (and I do believe her at least somewhat), that sounds terrible and overly harsh. I don’t know, I wasn’t there, it’s hard to read tone from dry text. Could they have been kinder and more accommodating of Emily? Absolutely. And I hope this is a learning experience for all involved.

I am concerned about Emily using the specter of racism to turn this into a self-promotion opportunity. I mean, if you don’t believe me, apparently she did a panel at Worldcon about how she got “kicked out of three literary conventions because of racism”? And now she seems determined to cause as much damage to the Symposium as she can on the way out.

A sad day, indeed.

Conclusion to the Conclusion.

I don’t have all the facts. My research is ongoing. But that’s exactly my point:

Take what Emily claims with a grain of salt.

Look into this.

Good luck.

28 thoughts on “The Writers’ Symposium Incident, September 2024

  1. I’m just going to say that if a convention organizer values a guest’s ability as a panelist and as a person interacting with other writers and fans, Linda Addison is 1000% a better GoH choice than Brandon Sanderson. She’s wonderful, entertaining, and she knows what she’s talking about. In a sensible world she would be as popular as Sanderson, and choosing her as a GoH would never be questioned.

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    • I deeply regret not getting the chance to meet Addison personally. She was an exciting and excellent choice. AFAIK, she’s primarily invested in horror circles, not SFF, so that might explain why GenCon was not familiar with her. I hope she comes back!

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      • Gen Cons own game catalog available in 2024 had a pretty substantial horror section. There were several new apocalypse games and a collection of horror or horror movie board games like final Girl. the idea that they were trying to curate towards a SFF only crowd when in the past they themselves invited a porn star turned non fiction writer and tried to push that on the symposium seems like an odd choice, all things considered. Addison is a perfect fit and considering next year is Chaosiums 50th including Cthulu she’s a better fit for expected events next year

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      • I wouldn’t say “SFF-only”—it’s “SFF core.” SFF gaming is the traditional bulk of their audience, and so I wouldn’t be surprised if generally assume the symposium will prioritize that audience.

        Without going into the history of con culture in general, Gen Con’s roots are in fantasy, D&D specifically. It will probably always have that heart, even as it has developed non-SFF stuff in the decades it has existed. So it’s entirely plausible that they know more about the SFF industry than horror or some other genre.

        The Writers’ Symposium has similar roots, though they have diversified significantly over the last decade.

        Today, Gen Con caters to a LOT of different content. It has lots of anime content, for instance,but the WS has never had a famous voice actor, to my knowledge.

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  2. Emily’s panel was “Then, is S#it, Here We Go… Sunday 1730 (yes, that’s the title) – start your Hugo evening right by listening to me, who disclosed that I’ve been booted in some form from three cons, moderate a panel on mishaps with running conventions.”

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  3. Consider: if Emily acted the same way towards Gen Con staff as she’s acted on Discord in the last day or so (and there’s no reason to believe she would have comported herself differently), would Gen Con’s treatment of her still be considered “harsh”?

    You’re in an hour long meeting with someone trying to find out why they essentially misspent your money and the person you’re asking questions of is (again, presumably) yelling at you within minutes that you don’t support her and giving you all sorts of verbal abuse, at some point you don’t owe her any courtesy either. And YOU are the one paying HER.

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  4. Thank you for compiling all this. My understanding was that GCWS is not invited back in 2025. Is that true, or is it just the Bells who are not invited back?

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    • According to my research (which in this case means my interview with Derek), only Chris and Emily Bell are barred from further participation in Writers’ Symposium leadership for 2025. GenCon is committed to the continuation of the Symposium, which they see as extremely valuable, and they are happy to talk to other members of the 2024 leadership team. It seems they consider Chris and Emily to be the driving force of the leadership team and their conflicts with GenCon in the planning for 2024.

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      • So the website is incorrect, then?

        Also, based on what Emily said and the references to the hotel rooms, instead of fully comping four ‘special guests’, the Bells gave two of the four hotel rooms (apparently in the name of inclusion?) to panel members who were otherwise required to pay their own way?

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      • Based on my research, Emily’s account contains numerous errors and misinterpretations, including her assertion that Gen Con refuses to work with anyone on the 2024 leadership team.

        I reached out to Gen Con to confirm this was their intention, and they said no, they only decline to work with Chris and Emily Bell again. They are willing to work with everyone else on the team. Whether this was their original intention or they softened their stance in the interim (I asked literally the day after their debrief meeting where they made the statement), I can’t say for sure.

        My report gives an accounting of the Bells’ use of funds, which is based on information Chris gave me. As you can see, they brought in two guests, rather than the four Gen Con expected, and used the rest of the funds for other Symposium purposes. I do not believe those funds are meant for lodging costs—there is some suggestion that Gen Con comps rooms for featured guests, which I’m trying to confirm.

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  5. Here’s that transcript of the letter I promised:

    Chris sent this co-signed email:

    Derek,

    After giving our last meeting some thought, I decided to consult with the committee before sending you the full list of invited speaker qualifications and compensation (among the other items, most of which I have already provided). I have coordinated this with the committee without disagreement.

    It has become clear that Gen Con is demanding a fundamental change to the underlying relationship with the Writers’ Symposium team, 7 months into our planning and execution for 2024—a relationship that for the past many years has worked well. Any relationship where we are being micromanaged and belittled is not going to work for us. We are busy professionals with exceptional qualifications putting our personal time and resources into this event with only partial reimbursement of our costs, and no payment for our labor.

    This will not be turned into any statement that we are unwilling to report to you or work with you. In response to the contentious meeting on 30 January 2024, our team worked overnight putting together the information you requested, providing it within 24 hours of the meeting. Yesterday you told me you haven’t read it, and you are again asking our team to provide many of the same answers that have already been provided. We have operated in good faith, and we cannot continue to repeat the same information with the same accusations.

    Please see for reference on information provided:

    2023 Final Report, sent 04 September 2023, 28 Pages
    Response to Derek Guder requests, 31 January 2024, 7 Pages
    We would like the 2024 GCWS to proceed. It is good for writers, good for the community, good for Gen Con, good for Indianapolis, and it is an event that we have all seen directly change lives year after year. However, this sudden and drastic change to our relationship that you are expecting has made this no longer possible. As such, I am no longer willing to sign the contract in any form, and our committee is not willing to continue operating without one.

    If Gen Con would like to reconsider its decision on our relationship for 2024, I am willing to postpone making any announcement regarding our “inability to reach an agreement” on our contract. For this to be salvaged, Gen Con would need to agree to issue us a contract with terms similar to 2023 as previously communicated, and with the Symposium’s full ability to expend the resources provided to us as we best see fit, within the same reasonable guidelines that we have operated under for many years.

    Unfortunately, we are at a critical point in our schedule with authors making travel plans, purchasing badges (required for them to seek lottery housing), etc. I will need any offer from GenCon to be made by Close of Business (COB) tomorrow, 16 February 2024. No response will be considered as a rejection of this offer.

    As we’ve repeatedly stated, we are willing to discuss a changed relationship for 2025 in September, but plans for 2024 cannot be changed at this late point, after people have spent hundreds of hours donating their labor, after travel plans have been made, after Featured Speakers have bought badges to prepare for the housing lottery, after announcements have been made.

    I understand that this might result in a very public and open response by the invited authors, volunteers, and fans of the Symposium. The reputation of the Symposium leadership team is well-known and respected, as are our recent efforts toward inclusion, and this sudden change of plans will have significant impact to many.

    Please let me know.

    Chris Bell

    Co-Signed:Alex BevierAva KellyEmily D.E. BellSeth LindbergToiya Kristen Finley

    His response was:

    Chris,

    It is very unfortunate that we have reached this point.

    Gen Con has not attempted to fundamentally change the structure of the Writers’ Symposium nor micromanage its operation. We are not objecting to the selected guests or who they are. In fact, it was the confusion about our expectation that there would be four special guests this year and not only two that made it clear the root issues were communication and coordination.

    The continued escalation of this situation has been reviewed internally (I have copied my boss on this reply) and Gen Con remains committed to finding a way to host the Writers’ Symposium in 2024 – it is valuable to us, our attendees, and attending authors. However, just over 24 hours is not a suitable timeline to make such a significant decision. We would like to continue negotiations in the hope we can still reach a compromise that satisfies both parties.

    Knowing you are going on vacation now, is there someone we can work with in your stead to attempt to resolve this?

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  7. Hi Eric! My name is Lithie Dubois and I was the ConChair for ConFusion 2020, (I cancelled 2021 due to COVID) and ConFusion 2022 – as well as a longtime member of the AASFA Board that puts on ConFusion.

    I’m commenting to correct something you statated in this report. ConFusion has not ever cut ties with Emily or Chris Bell.

    During my 2020 year, Emily was my Assistant Head of Programming and in 2023 I asked her to be my Head of Programming. That same year I asked Chris Bell to be my Head of Talent.

    Both performed their duties well. I had at times, as Chair, made decisions they may not have liked or agreed with, but to my knowledge, in no way were ties cut.

    In fact because I was aware of their publishing company and that they typically had a table to sell books from but due to workload in 2023 that made it difficult – I offered, arranged for, and provided Atthis Arts with a vendor table, free of charge, in our Artists Alley and they had their eldest work it as they worked they the con

    ConFusion, like many fan run cons, changes their Chair each year. I know that both the 2023 and 2024 Chairs had different Heads of Programming but not because we cut ties with the Bells, just each Chairs choice for their respective team positions.

    I know of no ill will or cut-ties between ConFusion and The Bells. If that has been said by anyone, it is factually incorrect -at least from the ConFusion side.

    Thank you for allowing me to correct the record. I found your writings to be as in depth as possible. Thanks!

    Lithie Dubois

    ConFusion 2020, 2023 ConChair and AASFA Board Secretary

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  8. Erik, I just realized I spelled your name wrong. I’m so sorry.

    onto your comment, holy shit! I had no idea such a claim was ever made.

    I’m stunned. Absolutely stunned. Neither Emily, nor Chris were ever kicked out. I do not know why anyone would claim that, but it is not true!

    Holy crap. I’m so very gobsmacked to hear such a claim.

    this sucks, to come here, defend them so people know they were never cut ties with and find out those is what is being said.

    Color me a fool.

    if you need to email me it’s Cylithria at the Gmail dot com

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    • No worries, Cylithria. Possibly I misunderstood Emily claim… she definitely claimed to be kicked out by three conventions. Emily even held a WorldCon panel about it.

      Maybe she meant different conventions?

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  9. I just want to thank you for the work you’ve done here, Erik, despite the trolling comments and rudeness you’ve dealt with from some circles (specifically Bluesky). Absolutely I think there are conversations to be had about unexamined racism when it comes to the qualifications of a BIPOC guest…

    But what about Emily’s racism?

    Like you have remarked, I have watched this whole thing go down with her pulling Mikki Kendall into it without a thought to how she’d feel being used as a prop in Emily’s white savoir complex. And to some degree, Emily has been successful–no surprise, she knows what works and how to rile people up to deflect from her own awful behavior.

    And none of this is even touching on the claims she made at this summer about how she staged a “coup” with GCWS to oust someone from the committee who she claimed got her kicked out of Origins. This is something she said publicly, though now deleted, and honestly if I was involved in running Gen Con, I’d look at someone who refused oversight, issued ultimatums, bragged publicly about staging a “coup” to get rid of someone involved in the committee, and her general inability to take criticism or examine her behavior, and I wouldn’t want to work with her either.

    She has absolutely been using Kendall as a shield and while I would not say there aren’t problems to address at Gen Con, I think the first step to deal with someone of them is what they’ve done: cut ties with the Bells.

    You’ve been incredibly fair here, sir, and I appreciate what you’ve put into this post and clarifying a situation that was so muddied to begin with.

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    • I can’t comment specifically on Emily Bell’s underlying motives or intentions. I know her personally and have worked with her in a semi-professional capacity for years now, specifically regarding the Symposium, but I don’t know her well enough to have a sense of her as a person beyond what she says and does. I do find her behavior and her attacks upon me troubling, but I also understand why being cut out of something she has spent so much effort and heartache on would be so upsetting, so I ask everyone to hold grace for her.

      I do believe she genuinely wants to bring in more BIPOC speakers to the Symposium, which is exactly what she did in 2024, and by all accounts—including mine—Addison and Kendall were fantastic guests. I highly encourage the Symposium to continue along this trajectory.

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      • You have been tremendously classy and fair during this whole thing, and I commend that. I have no doubt Emily also wants to bring more BIPOC speakers as guests, but her own unexamined racism here–and the acceptance of it in some circles–has really troubled me. Ms. Kendall deserved better from all involved, including Emily.

        Best wishes–your care for the Symposium and to clarifying the situation with as much fairness involved to all parties has been appreciated.

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  12. Erik, may I offer an outside perspective (as not a writer, but an attendee of some of the the events). I’m a long time volunteer game master for Origins, a lapsed attendee of ConFusion (It being a local convention means that it was a staple of my childhood, being descended from a pair of con-runners), as well as having worked with Gencon as a volunteer game master with plenty of friends who have worked with each of the events for a long time.

    With Origins and ConFusion, I can state with absolute conviction that the organizations running the show are committed to outreach, inclusivity, and creating a welcoming atmosphere for essentially all attendees. However, I will also say that after a few embarrassing happenings with their guests and vendors*, and more than a small amount of push-back from both industry and GAMA club members who are voting members of the organization, but are not members of industry, but instead paying representatives of the fandom pushing to more strongly align the show with promotion of gaming, gaming companies, and the commercial and hobby interests of GAMA members, that Origins has a strong focus on serving the attendees, especially as Origins acts as a source of funding for the GAMA trade show and the overall organization. Expanding the scope of the show, especially as it’s seen the gutting of anchor events such as MTG and other card tournaments, is a hard sell budget wise. So if it’s not strongly gaming or Nerd culture related, Origins just doesn’t have room in the balance sheet to spend money, especially as they are trying to change to an inclusively priced rather than per event model.

    Gencon, as I understand it is just too big of a show for the chair/owner to address every controversy personally, and also operates with a fairly simple rule of thumb. If someone is a department head, they are trusted to know when they can make a decision versus kicking it upstairs, and once a decision is made, absent new information, they will stand behind it. Considering that from the organizations perspective, it’s a pretty simple matter of “We spend X, expecting Y deliverables and that didn’t happen”, I can’t exactly blame not wanting to have the Bells back. Especially as they were then given an ultimatum with a tight deadline due to a personal vacation, with, in the posted correspondence, no designated alternate to speak for the committee. Given my experience working as staff for another gaming convention, even at ~20% the size of Gencon, if there’s an issue with your deliverables, you’re generally expected to speak up early for help, communicate, and own the issue. If you can’t own the issue and drive it to success, then you don’t own the issue or the deliverables anymore, and someone else is asked to take over to put on the show. These shows need passionate people working for them, and definitely couldn’t be done the way they are by solely punch clock professionals. This leaves aside any interpersonal conflicts, hurt feelings from an ultimatum, or any other potential cause.

    I’m very grateful to see you put a summary together, and I think that Gencon definitely should support the symposium at a higher level, as 4K is not a lot for most events.

    However, I also take more than a little issue with the Bells characterizations of their financial contribution. If you’re a company engaged to do business with the public, money put into a POS system is an investment, not just an expense. If this was meant to be an outgrowth of a Gencon event, creating unique merchandise (The anthology), I don’t see why the fact Gencon doesn’t have a bookseller, would prevent them from selling it through an existing Merch partner of Gencon, such as Rollacrit, if there wasn’t a desire for them to involve their business in the event. Not to mention that if they had reached out to the community, the survivor of Larry Smith Bookseller attends Gencon working with Pegasus Publishing with frequency, and likely would have been happy to work with the symposium to provide a POS system. And if you’re offering a better rate to authors than you can make money at, that’s not the fault of the event. It’s a bad business deal, which could be characterized as sponsoring the authors in question, failure to anticipate demand (which, per their accounting, was up) versus fixed expenses, or if there are other investors/stake holders involved, borderline fraud, especially dependent on how it’s filed on taxes and what the cost structure actually is.

    *(Larry Correia, who was both a game writer, and happened to be active in an area (miniatures) GAMA was looking to invigorate at Origins, which blew up on them pretty badly, because they were trying to be apolitical and many people felt unsafe with a vocally conservative guest, especially given his involvement in the Sad Puppies mess), where I don’t believe anyone was happy due to him A) being invited in the first place or B) was dis-invited (and more or less told he couldn’t attend the show privately), and The Gaming Goat, which was barred from vending, and it’s CEO banned, for white nationalist and harassment issues.

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  13. As someone coming to this months after the fact, trying to understand what happened here, I appreciate the work you’ve done to put together as unbiased a view as possible. I don’t know any of the players in this situation, and I can imagine how difficult it must have been, so first, thank you!

    I do have a question, though. You’ve cautioned against defamation of Derek by Emily here, but were you ever able to find any corroborated accounts of his conduct at the fateful meeting? I realize that, even outside of an interpersonal communication context, it does seem like the Bells reacted in a way that made things difficult for Gen Con organizationally, but going into a meeting to reprimand a contractor and having no command of the information supporting why you’re reprimanding them is a recipe for disaster – and simply repeating “I need you to understand why what you did was wrong” is not a substitute for that. And if he didn’t know these things, then Marian should have been ready to offer input, rather than just(apparently) shutting any actual conversation down. If he did, in fact, repeatedly demand information while also stating that he didn’t bother to read what they had already sent him, then it’s pretty reasonable to understand the Bells’ reaction afterward. While bringing in your boss(seemingly) blindly to reprimand someone working for you might be technically allowed in their organization, there’s no faster way to raise the hackles of the party being reprimanded, particularly if they were already a problem. It really seems like the only version of that meeting being told out there is Emily’s blog account, and if neither Derek nor Marian is willing to speak details about it, that’s not a great look for either of them. It’s unfortunate, especially if Emily has a history of attacking anyone who doesn’t immediately side with her, but that’s ultimately all anyone else has to go on.

    This whole thing really feels like two groups behaving childishly and then no one actually being willing to cop to it. I have a strong suspicion that this is going to just become one of those “the larger party remains silent because that’s legally safer than trying to clear the air, whether they acted well or not” situations, so I understand if you’re not interested in any further digging on it. Thanks again in advance, either way!

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    • I have not seen it, but allegedly there is a recording of the meeting in question, which is (allegedly) in Emily’s possession. Whether this is true or not, I can’t document either way. As such, all I have is hearsay descriptions of the meeting from multiple attendees, which differ wildly depending on perspective.

      It seems pretty clear to me that Gen Con would rather move past this incident. IMO, from their perspective, this is a contractor creating headaches for them and now trying to smear them in the court of public opinion, so it’s no surprise they want no further involvement.

      I have no further comment to offer on the Bells or this situation. It appears Maurice Broaddus has been elevated as the head of the GCWS going into 2025, which is an excellent choice and long over due. Maurice is an institution on the Symposium, and his connections and charisma have been irreplaceable for decades. He was also part of the leadership team for 2024, so it should be a smooth transition.

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